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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Parajubaea Torallyi
Saw this small specimen at RHS Wisley. Parajubaea Torallyi.
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Nice experiment but it's going to die the only place I have seen this spp alive outside is the super mild Lamorran gdns and maybe Tremenheere and yes I have killed it at just -6c
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:22 am |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Ah that's a shame. I was thinking of maybe trying one of these palms, maybe potted and brought in for winter. Where did you source yours?
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:51 am |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Bringing it for winter would be fine mine came from Akamba but at the time most nurseries were selling them. I would try Simon at Amulree as your best bet now
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:07 pm |
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Michael (SW Ireland)
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:38 pm Posts: 1912 Location: Cape Clear Island, Roaringwater Bay
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Typical- Wisley finally plants an interesting palm, but it's the wrong one I reckon P. torallyi might do well in Central London- shame there are so few exoticists there!
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:37 pm |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Thanks kev, what a wide variety of palms they have at Amulree. Opened my eyes at the variety and possibility of growing more unusual types.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:18 pm |
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David York
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:31 am Posts: 54 Location: Eboracum
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
It's surprising that an establishment like that didn't label this plant with it's proper name.
Is it Parajubaea torallyi var. torallyi? Or is it Parajubaea torallyi var. microcarpa?
Perhaps they can't be bothered, or maybe they just don't know.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:02 pm |
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STEPH
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:44 pm Posts: 193 Location: LONDON
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:23 pm |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:22 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Again,California -6C is not the same I know,but some have taken that with no problems. But,I know that some plants I have look worse then a 0c sibling has in soucal. For you,it could be a 1 in 50 palm will do fine. More philosophy then help.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:42 pm |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
I would not put anyone off having a go, I myself have not always took advice from others, but for me I would be guessing -3c would be around the mark for this palm. As Stan mentions they can go lower but need California's higher recovery day time temps to pull through I think our slow cool springs just does not cut it for this palm.
I myself have had better results with Juania australis but this is not a cheap palm to experiment with James
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Here is the one from Lamorran this is P.coccoides the most tender of the 3 more available Parajubaea...Juania to the front.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:30 pm |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Thanks again Kev. I do like more unusual things and have been known to spend quite of bit of money on fish (my other big hobby being marine fish keeping) I do find myself attracted to a challenge, but I always do my research, and a lot of it.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:16 pm |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
I am interested in trying parajubaea, Juania, rhopalostylis, archontophoenix and howea having seen a few reports of people managing with them in cooler areas.
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:04 pm |
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David Matzdorf
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm Posts: 5321 Location: Islington, London UK
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
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Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:23 pm |
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cichlidfish
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:21 am Posts: 415 Location: Petworth, uk
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Re: Parajubaea Torallyi
Did you protect your archontophoenix during the cold?
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