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Pricy147
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:40 am Posts: 112 Location: Swansea
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Sabal Palmetto
Purchased a fantastic Sabal Palmetto from Hardy Palms last week - arguably the most striking palm I have purchased. They have good cold hardiness ratings, and I have faired well with a Sabal Minor - so just wondering how others have got off trying this palm in the UK and colder climates?
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Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:21 am |
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Lodewijkp
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:45 pm Posts: 10 Location: The netherlands
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Re: Sabal Palmetto
I like their trunks but i have not been succesfull growing them from seed in my climate, not enough sun and too cold summers. Seedlings are very slow growing. The nurseries here only offered small specimen for high prices which is risky because when young they are not cold hardy compared to mature specimen. Young plants can get killed easily in wet and cold conditions but mature specimen can take -12C to -18 C. It is however not comparable to sabal minor, sabel minor is more cold , wet and shade tolerant than sabal palmetto. Sabal palmetto likes good drainage( like all palms ) and as much sun as possible.
You have done well getting a large specimen they are faster growing when older. Be sure to put it in the ground or a very very large container. Regarding cold they are very sensitive at the roots so personally i wouldn't keep them in a container, their trunk is very hardy and easily regenerate. I would protect the spear against fungi during winter and protect the trunk with burlap wrap when it gets really cold as long the trunk is ok it will regenerate pretty fast next spring. They are pretty adaptable i have seen people growing them in shade but they dont develop trunks in shade.
If you ever see a sabal bermudana also get that one. Like most sabals tgey are wimps when small but matured they can easily be grown in Zone 8a and can survive in zone 7B. They are pretty fast growing for a sabal.
Stunning sabal you got there
Last edited by Lodewijkp on Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:35 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:23 am |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Re: Sabal Palmetto
I used to live in the heart of their natural range in north Florida. Definitely your biggest challenge will the lack of summer heat. That said, I can't remember one tree dying from the 10 F cold we got back in the mid 80s. Lots of other palms got fried, notably some really old Washingtonia robusta. They certainly are beautiful when grown well. Good luck with it!
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Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:32 am |
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fryv20
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:30 pm Posts: 1 Location: wales
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Re: Sabal Palmetto
hello pricey im also from swansea ive tried two trunking sabals b4 sabal domingensis and another cant remember the name as the previous post said we dont get enough heat for these to grow in the summer unless your gonna grow it in the conservatory or greenhouse i also found the wind snapped the leaves easily i was tempted by the cold tolerance rating but i chucked them in nov could see it was a non starter planted out ive had good sucess with brahea armata edulis trithrinax acanthacome and campestris i am trying a livistonia nitidia to see how that goes
by the way hello everyone 1st post ill have to take some pictures of the garden when the weather improves adrian
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Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:39 pm |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Sabal Palmetto
As has been stated ... their one weakness seems to be leaf breakage from the hastula. I am not sure what species have the best resistance but with Winter storms over a period of time damage can happen. I visited a garden last year and noticed this Sabal Palmetto with the leaf problem However don't be put off , you have bought it so try it and good luck
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Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:35 am |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Re: Sabal Palmetto
Wow, I never would have expected the fronds to break like that! These live in places that get hurricanes on a regular basis, and I can't ever remember seeing trees with fronds broken in that way. Maybe it is a function of growing in a colder climate?
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