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Hi,

Has anyone ordered from Bowdens Ferns?
They are expensive, but do have some unusual types.


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What sort you looking for?

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ArtV wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone ordered from Bowdens Ferns?
They are expensive, but do have some unusual types.


Yes, I've ordered from them. Found them very efficient and professional.


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benbaron wrote:
What sort you looking for?

Various Blechnums


Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:32 am
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Bowdens is an interesting company. They started off years ago just selling hostas but over the past few years bought out a couple of large bamboo nurseries (PW Plants and Jungle Giants) and also fern nurseries (World of Ferns aka Rickards Hardy Ferns) keeping on the owners as consultants. I'm told the head honcho doesn't actually know anything much about plants. Planning for world domination, I reckon. Or England, at least.

Also worth mentioning that taxonomists have finally got their claws into Blechnum and split it into several new genera with instantly forgettable names: http://ebps.org.uk/new-classification-blechnum/

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Paul Spracklin wrote:

Also worth mentioning that taxonomists have finally got their claws into Blechnum and split it into several new genera with instantly forgettable names: http://ebps.org.uk/new-classification-blechnum/


I'm sure those are going to be real winners in the horticultural world. Lucky thing that most people won't care. Taxonomists have been doing the same thing in the orchid world, for example, sinking most species of Laelia and all Sophronitis into genus Cattleya. That is a real pain for folks trying to sort out intergeneric hybrids, rendering many hybrid nothogenera obsolete or very complicated. Luckily ferns don't hybridize readily!

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Yup, taxonomists been doing this sort of thing for a while
Aloe has been split, as has Haworthia. And I see the African Acacias are supposed to be called Senegalia :roll:

I sent Bowdens an email query and they were quick to respond.
Will prob get a few ferns from them.


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Recently paid a visit to Bowdens and found that they don't have as much available as their website suggests. I suggest you give them a ring to see if they actually have in stock what you are after before ordering online. Also yes they are expensive, particularly Cyathea when the have them, on their website they have for sale a Cyathea Medullaris in a 30ltr pot for sale at £375 so when I had a look at this at this fern for sale on my visit I was expecting a nice big tree fern but it actually only has about 3/4 inches of trunk. I had no intentions of buying, just curious of what nearly 400 bucks will get you and apparently not much!. I dread to think how much it would cost me to replace my own medullaris which has 18 inches of trunk.

Trunked specimens of Cyathea are extremely expensive everywhere, Kelways nursery had a 3ft trunked C. australis for sale at £2500, needless to say its still there but no longer on the website but then again the guy at Kelways who deals with the tree ferns is also a collector and hates parting with them which would partially explain the prices.

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Beware incorrect labelling. Something that can come hand in hand with nurseries that aren't owned by diligent plantsmen.

Keep an eye on my website, as one day this spring I will actually update it. I have a very good range of interesting/rare ferns this year, which will become apparent. Either that or just call in and find out.

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We've visited Bowdens a few years ago.
Good range of ferns, and some nice not-so-often-seen thingies as well, priced,.....but if you want something special,.... ;)

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So with winter approaching

Blechnum tabulare
Blechnum novae-zelandiae
Blechnum magellanicum

How hardy are these going to be?
Do they need any protection?


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ArtV wrote:
So with winter approaching

Blechnum tabulare
Blechnum novae-zelandiae
Blechnum magellanicum

How hardy are these going to be?
Do they need any protection?


Art.... L'ombre des Figuieurs has a large collection of Blechnums. They recently acquired Blechnum palmiforme but it has sold out very quickly. Unfortunately they are expensive and be wary of their postal charges. https://www.achat-vente-palmiers.com/en ... hnum-ferns
They do list minimum temps and B tabulare is the most tender at -5C. The other two are quoted as -10C. Sorry but I cannot verify those temps as I have no experience with those species ferns.

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ArtV wrote:
So with winter approaching

Blechnum tabulare
Blechnum novae-zelandiae
Blechnum magellanicum

How hardy are these going to be?
Do they need any protection?


Blechnum tabulare I would say at -5c it would start scorching all the leaves you could lose any trunk too.
I cover mine with a plastic cloche with straw inside to be safe.
They are easy to propagate from offsets around the "trunk"

Blechnum novae-zelandiae loses all its leaves (turns black) but always returns I have never protected it and it came through 2010 and -11c

Blechnum magellanicum is fine most years but I lost the small trunk on one of my 3 again in 2010 but it sent up shoots all around the dead trunk and I now have another 4 plants I have never protected it.

I have many Blechnum they are a cracking fern


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Blechnum tabulare I would say at -5c it would start scorching all the leaves you could lose any trunk too.
I cover mine with a plastic cloche with straw inside to be safe.
They are easy to propagate from offsets around the "trunk"

Blechnum novae-zelandiae loses all its leaves (turns black) but always returns I have never protected it and it came through 2010 and -11c

Blechnum magellanicum is fine most years but I lost the small trunk on one of my 3 again in 2010 but it sent up shoots all around the dead trunk and I now have another 4 plants I have never protected it.

I have many Blechnum they are a cracking fern


I think what we can conclude from this is that, unless we have a reprise of 2010, all of these species will be OK in Middlesex, most parts of which, except for a few notorious frost-hollows, are significantly less chilly than Leicestershire.

I certainly wouldn't be inclined to provide any of them with winter-long protection. Very few plants enjoy that. If you get a week with temperatures below -5ºC, chuck some fleece over them and then remove it when the freeze has abated.

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Post Re: Bowdens Ferns
Thanks for the replies.
They are still relatively small plants.
So I will fleece them if it gets below freezing

I also have a Woodwardia orientalis, but I will be bringing that one indoors.


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