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The other day i spent some time trimming dead leaves from two of my plants. Both suddenly now seem huge now that the trunks have been exposed!

This Nolina nelsonii had quietly accumulated a lot of dead leaves that I had just not got around to removing. Without the leaves I can see now it has grown around 60cm of trunk since I planted it about 10 years ago. Originally this was one of those large Spanish seed-grown plants from Urban Jungle.

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This Yucca faxoniana was planted the same year. I planted it at an angle, thinking I was being smart, but it soon started to slowly collapse downwards and, frankly, became dangerous. A friend (thanks Si!) made this prop for me by welding a foot and U shape to either end of an ACRO, but I still kept the petticoat. Over time the dead leaves started to look tatty and mildewy, so off they came. Now the bendy trunk and ACRO can be seen in all their glory and, I think, add bags of character!


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Makes me look at all my yuccas and wonder what they would look like 'naked'. :D

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:05 am
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Some nice plants you have there Paul. I do prefer to keeps the skirts/petticoats although with Yucca treculeana I have removed all my leaves on dead or browning leaves. I guess removing dead leaves aids ventilation to the trunk especially in our moist and humid climate. Is that Nolina Durangensis next to the Yucca faxoniana?

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:27 am
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Andy, there are 2 nolinas in that pic. To the left of the yucca with very weeping foliage is, I think, Nolina longifolia. It is one that I always refer to as the 'plastic bag nolina' as that is how it came back when I bought it from a supplier in Morocco. That was a while ago now!! It has always been a little bigger than other N. longifolia that I have grown and also the bud is very colourful as it emerges and grows.

To the right with more upright growth, which I think must be the one you are referring to, is N. beldingii as at the moment it is reminiscent of N. durangensis. I got that a long while ago from Tim Ingram at Compton Ash nursery. Usually it has much longer leaves but something strange happened to the centre last year and the regrowth is smaller at the moment. However it is much larger than N. durangensis and already has a decent sized trunk.

Although none of my trunked Nolinas are flowering this year, two of my trunkless spp are pushing up buds. One has flowered before and I think it is N. texana. The other is first time of flowering so hopefully I should be able to out a name to it.

How are your nolinas this year?

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:25 pm
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Paul... thanks to another mild Winter (-7C min) they are all still alive. I have one year old plants of Nolina palmeri sown from seed ..too small to plant out and am potting on. Looks similar to matapensis at the seedling stage.
Nolina palmeri
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Two year old matapensis

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Dasylirions appear ok but have problems with quadrangulatum. Taking forever to grow a new head after flowering and some damage on that this winter despite a rain cover. BTW mine has fine teeth at the basal leaf area but plant does not look like those native grown longissimums which look scruffy in appearance.

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I decided I'll leave the other yuccas with their skirts. :)

I planted out a Nolina matapensis about that size last year, gambling as I had a spare, and it has come through the winter just fine. It is in a frosty part of my garden and saw perhaps -5C. Promising and, like yours, has that beautiful glaucous blue colour. How is that big trunked one from Germany doing? I've still not decided which species it is - something about it makes me think it isn't longifolia. Mine attempted to flower last year but the spike developed rot way in the crown and didn't develop properly. Now sporting several new growth points so it will be interesting to see how many make it during the course of this year. Gotta love nolinas!

If your Dasylirion quadrangulatum has teeth, even little ones at the base, then it isn't quadrangulatum. Either longissimum or a hybrid. And, yes - sometimes they are really slow to recover! I had three flower last year, plus one the year before, and none of them are showing much sign of new growth.

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Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:20 pm
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Paul.... the Nolina from Germany is fine with no damage. Again covered it from rain/snow but it it is increasingly difficult to do so. It was in such a mess when it arrived
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And today

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The original plant does have some similarities to a trunked Hibernica from this Hungarian Seller
http://www.egzotikuskerteszet.hu/en/pro ... egory_id=5

I have high hopes for this Nolina Parviflora which is just over one year old from seed. Way ahead of the other seed plants. This will be planted this year.
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Have tried Nolina Parryi but out of three packet of seeds ...15 in total not one germinated.. and this is a hardy trunker too :roll:

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Looking good Paul I see you have some new planting space under the Nolina do you have plans for it?


Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:57 pm
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Space underneath! I think I will just give it some space. I have one of the low red Sedum spurium cv.s and Acaena inermis 'Purpurea' nearby, so they can have a race to see who colonises the spot first :)

Andy, I have parviflora here grown from my own seed collection. Pretty slow compared to nelsonii but seems tough enough so far. Nolina parryi is high on my 'most wanted' list. Especially ssp wolfii.

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Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:19 pm
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Couple of nice Nolina nelsonii I picked up last week....
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Looks good planted if I do say so myself
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:35 pm
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Great plant Ben, I wonder what sort of age that would be?


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Nice size specimen Ben. Those pots they were sold in look strange though... usually see Agaves in them. I've left a skirt on mine
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I hope you have many years of pleasure with the plant :D

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Thanks Chaps - I know the pots are odd ones, no surprise not tons of roots but still pretty much filling the pots. I had a couple similar size last year in big normal pots - I prefer them but these are super easy to carry :) (when I say easy I do mean relatively and still heavy enough to tear all my quads ;)
They originate from Italy, maybe they have some funny ideas over there about plant pots.

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Lovely specimens Paul, I was thinking of your garden after your appearance with Nick on gardeners world (whenever that was?!) and still have a Yucca faxoniana you kindly gave me (god knows how many years ago...). Kept it in a pot and it's now looking a little yellow and in need of a transplant - how old is the one you have pictured?


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