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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
UC Berkeley Cordyline banksii
Cordyline indivisa
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:09 am |
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Adrian
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:32 pm Posts: 185 Location: Folkestone Kent UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Loving the picture of the indivisa Stan (wish they would tidy the dead leaves though). What height would you estimate the trunk to be? I'm wondering if it's a similar height to mine.
Love looking at your pictures Stan, even if I don't always comment.
Regards
Adrian
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:01 am |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
I'm amazed how well it looks in that Californian heat.... I'm assuming Stan that Berkeley does not suffer the summer fogs? My baby Indivisa suffers dreadfully from the extreme summer heat here
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:27 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
No Andy,Berkeley is very moderate summers. If you were visiting you might notice that the homes near the botanical garden are very much in the large English Tudor tradition. Same for the gardens and flora. Many Yews,large lawns.
Adrian,I would guess the height at about 12-14'. It appears to be in need of a bit more filtered sun. The two of them were single trunked. Maybe they remove pups for propagation?
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:08 pm |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Thanks for the pictures Stan I am sure if we put a "like" button you would get lots of people liking the pics but they would be no comments.
The only place I have seen Cordline banksii is on the Scilly Isles at Tresco it has an unusual habit to be sure. The C.indivisa must be very old as they seem, for me at least, very slow growing any ideas how long they have been there Stan?
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:36 pm |
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Diego Gago Mesejo
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:36 pm Posts: 46 Location: A Coruña, Galicia, Spain
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Very beatiful palms! It is surprising their good aspect with the california climate. I hope i could find c. Indivisa in spain
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:22 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Kev,thanks!. I would guess that is about 15 years old. Based on my C.red star,C.petiolaris and C.terminalis in our climate. I think Indivisa as sub tree like as compared to C.australis,but larger then the other shrubby types. Diego,I've only seen them at a local nursery for sale once. Not inexpensive. My problem with gophers was on my mind.
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Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:34 pm |
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junglejason
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:49 pm Posts: 206 Location: arthog, gwynedd, wales
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:25 am |
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Martinnicklin
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:06 pm Posts: 2675 Location: Telford UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Cheers Jason. Thank God I wasn't the only one thinking that!
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:22 pm |
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junglejason
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:49 pm Posts: 206 Location: arthog, gwynedd, wales
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Thanks for your comment Martin it makes me feel normal again. Damn good picks by the way Stan, thanks for sharing.
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:39 pm |
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AlexW
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:39 pm Posts: 95 Location: Reading UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
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Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:18 pm |
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David Matzdorf
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm Posts: 5321 Location: Islington, London UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
Alex, that "Cordyline banksii" looks a lot like C. obtecta 'Green Goddess' to me.
I have one to compare it with.
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Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:36 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
I think Alex,the UCB plant could be more substantial,but its getting too much shade. The D. antarctica's must have outgrown it,or they just thought it needed that much shade. I have 'Electric Pink" that is a hybrid ( they say) of C.banksii and C.australis. Its never going to reach the heights of C.indivisa. tallest I've seen was pushing 8'? mine is about 6' half that is stem. Same old story though in that there was 4 plants that were shoots..one died when a vandal yanked it near horizontal,and one day I noticed years later..I see only two main stems. My old tenants were I see now ..plant thief's. Since moving away,I haven't lost a single plant in those two years. Real world gardening problems.
David,not familiar with that one. It lives up to the name..nice green lushness to it.
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:15 am |
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Adrian
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:32 pm Posts: 185 Location: Folkestone Kent UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
My indivisa continues to thrive and in my opinion it doesnt care if it's summer heat or winter cold (sounding like Diana Ross there!), It shrugs both off, I think what it likes about where I live is the damp foggy weather, I live high on the cliffs at Dover (ish) and it's foggy for about one third of the year. I'm willing to bet that if you mist a C. indivisa on a regualr basis , or spray it with the hose it will like it.
That and the perfect drainage and shade, I really do think they like shade, at least whilst young.
Adrian
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Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:23 am |
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Paul Spracklin
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:55 pm Posts: 2564 Location: North Thames delta UK
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Re: Mountain Cabbage Tree and Banks Cabbage Tree.
That is a very interesting observation, Adrian. Having lost count of how many I have killed I may even try again with that in mind C. banksii seems just as tricky to grow. I've tried a few times and never succeeded for long. I had a beautiful wide leafed form from Peter Richardson years ago but as soon as it started to make any trunk it rotted. I know of a couple of big ones in Cornwall - Fox Rosehill and Tremenheere. They end up looking like trunked phormiums!
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