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 No fool like an old fool (Butia) 
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Post Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
Andy Martin wrote:
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Charlie I am sure it will be fine are you not just going to plant it out then its a good time of the year.



Sorry to hear you lost 6 Butia Mo thats not funny what went in their place?


I got a Jubaea last year. Mainly rhododendrons :D


Mo is that Vireya Rhododendrons? :wink:

:roll: not you too. 2 against 1. Not fair

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Mo ... just joking... I wish I could grow Rhododendrons in my garden but the imported soil I have is not acid enough for them. Camellias grow OK in it though. They appear more forgiving. :D

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Sun May 14, 2017 6:05 pm
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I know :D but you always take his side :D Feel like divorcing parents asking you to choose :lol: . It's because I did not come to the meet. Kev has custody now :roll:

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There is another meet coming up Mo if you want to redeem yourself I wont tell Andy :lol:


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If hybrids have more vigor as its said...how are the Mule palms in the UK? Are they even available?


Tue May 16, 2017 11:34 pm
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Yes Stan. I acquired three off JohnP when he was a palm exporter a few years ago. He is the one who tends to wear cardigans or loud jumpers. I gave one away and have two in pots. They are not going to be as hardy as Butia. I've never subscribed to the hybrid vigour as I've not seen any evidence to support this. As I said I have two butyagrus. One is growing slowly and one is growing a tad faster. I attribute this to neglect. I sort of plant things and let them get on with it.

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Wed May 17, 2017 12:11 am
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Kev its good to see it arrived in good nick and it looks good planted out. I have lost a number of butia over the years but had about 4 (including variants) that survived December 2010.

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I lost a large Butia Capitata in 2010 - but it sailed through other winters far better than many of my other palms - esp. Phoenix canariensis which I have had little success with.

I now have a another large Butia planted out last summer - sailing through last winter unprotected - pic below.

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This year contemplating planting out (after overwintering in unheated greenhouse for 5-6 years) my Butiagrus - see below...

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Nice Butia Pricey I guess I am a little late on setting Butia again.
I see your leaflets are quite wide what did it come as I am guessing B odorata?
John we were quite surprised when it came with the size of the packaging but not one leaf got broke in transit I was very pleased.
Btw love your Butiagrus how is it coming along?

Mine seems to be benefiting from my over head watering system

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Kev my butyagrus (Butiagrus) is doing really well and I will try and do an up to date picture. In the meantime I have just lifted a picture from Facebook that was taken by Nigel when he visited me a few weeks back.

https://www.facebook.com/hardypalms/photos/pcb.1828958810655310/1828958290655362/?type=3

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That looks damn good John. Very tropical looking. You might give a bit more room and move the Trachy. They transplant well.


Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:27 am
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Stan wrote:
That looks damn good John. Very tropical looking. You might give a bit more room and move the Trachy. They transplant well.

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Wow, John, your Butyagrus is amazing.

Do you know where your Butyagrus came from as it is definitely a hardy strain you have there. I think they were coming from Florida and Brazil around the time that you bought yours.


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John as Daniel mentions that is fab-u-lous specimen do you fertilize it over the summer months?


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I didn't grow Butia in 2010 but since then have acquired, Odorata, Cateriensis, Eriospatha, all these have been grow from strap leaved seedlings. All are still in pots except the Eriospatha, which was planted out 3 years ago, all the rest have suffered neglect left out in the corner of the garden and virtually ignored. The Erios were obtained from Vic on EPS and grow very well for me, they will take all the wet the Welsh weather throws at them. I should point out living on the coast means I only get -5c in the winter, also I garden on sand (beach). If you can supply these conditions I recommend Erios every time. I also have a Jubaea X Butia which I am planting out in a couple of weeks, so I shall soon see how that does. I am not expecting any problems as I can also grow Jubaea and CIDP. :wink:

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