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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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No fool like an old fool (Butia)
So after 2010 and the the rather harsh winter we had in Europe I vowed no more Butia spp
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Everyone else back to planting Butia?
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Sun May 07, 2017 9:18 pm |
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charliepridham
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:42 pm Posts: 1925 Location: Cornwall
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
I only have one Butia, the result of an accident, In 2008 I threw away a pot of compost of non germinated Butia seed I had picked up on holiday somewhere, left outside with no heat it managed to germinate and despite being tiny when that cold hit in 2010 it is growing (very slowly) trouble is its growing in a really stupid place about two feet from my greenhouse! all the other small Butias perished in the cold, I can't decide whether to remove it while its still small or leave well alone as it seems to have decided "there" is a good place. Then you go to somewhere like Lamorran, see their Butias and think why am I bothering
_________________ Charlie, Growing climbers in Cornwall http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
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Sun May 07, 2017 9:48 pm |
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ArtV
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:46 pm Posts: 151 Location: Middlesex, UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
I have one decent sized Butia (planted after 2010). And a few young plants in the greenhouse that I am still growing on.
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Mon May 08, 2017 8:19 am |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
I bought this Butia Yatay this year. I've heard its legendary tales of hardiness Last year I bought Butia Odorata and it survived last Winter but with leaf spotting My oldest Butia... species unknown... survived 2010 with no protection and only spear pull. Came from Steve Jacobs and cost me £5. This Butia is very slow growing and is characterised by a massive sword like spear Finally a failure... Butia Eriospatha .... I've had it for four years and it weakened primarily because I did not remove the red Brazilian Concrete that passes for soil around it. I'm hoping for an improvement this year.
_________________ Lover of Yuccas,Palms,Nolinas,Schefflera.
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Mon May 08, 2017 7:14 pm |
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themes
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:42 am Posts: 2148 Location: birmingham, UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
Einstein's definition of lunacy. But they do look lovely. Saying that I can't be without them
_________________ Regards,
Mo
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Mon May 08, 2017 7:19 pm |
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karl66
Joined: Wed May 27, 2015 6:09 pm Posts: 284 Location: halesowen.west midlands UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
I have a caterinensis with just short of a metre of trunk, starting to show a nice arched crown now and perfect if space is tight. I don't protect it and damage to fronds is a regular occurance. lost count of erios ive lost, although I believe some were sold half dead .
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Mon May 08, 2017 8:01 pm |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
Interesting feedback guys many thanks. Charlie I would go for a move as the lovely arching leaves look far better given a little room stuck against a greenhouse is not going to be a good look. ArtV its always good to have back up, I have found Butia seem very slow from seed, maybe its just me with one on its second split leaf 5 years later. How low did the B.odorata go last year Andy.. protection? B.yatay braver man than myself Andy I am guessing you know whats going to happen there then BTW Great looking palms Andy Butia are a very elegant palm they look pristine! Mo how did yours fare in 2010 or have you gone for new ones? Karl not really up with telling which Butia is which these days any telling factor for B.caterensis as mine said capitata which I believe is highly unlikely. I am guessing mine is B.odorata as the flower spathe is clean looking? This is my Butia that 2010 had away
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Tue May 09, 2017 8:18 pm |
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charliepridham
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:42 pm Posts: 1925 Location: Cornwall
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
Kev, I shall blame you if it all goes wrong! But I went straight out and removed said Butia (it was embarrassingly easy) it is now in a big pot and can be moved to a safer location in the future if it decides to grow
_________________ Charlie, Growing climbers in Cornwall http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
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Wed May 10, 2017 9:42 pm |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
_________________ Lover of Yuccas,Palms,Nolinas,Schefflera.
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Wed May 10, 2017 11:49 pm |
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themes
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:42 am Posts: 2148 Location: birmingham, UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
_________________ Regards,
Mo
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Thu May 11, 2017 1:48 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
There's buying something that WILL die,and then buying something that MIGHT make it,and you have the reason for all of us. Plenty could say I told you so when my Croton died after 2 year,after my Maridols died after 3 (that hurt), but..Pachypodium,Mango, even some Plumeria are still going. My affirmation of the day.
ps, 2 years of Croton was worth $18. It was so beau tee ful.
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Thu May 11, 2017 8:40 pm |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
Charlie I am sure it will be fine are you not just going to plant it out then its a good time of the year.
Andy the Yucca in question is Yucca aloifolia "Tricolor" it was heavily damaged and removed it I now have 5 plants. I moved them to a less sunny place in winter the one under an olive tree is pristine the 4 in the open the lower leaves get badly damaged I may have to move it back to where it was in that old picture. Do you grow this one?
Sorry to hear you lost 6 Butia Mo thats not funny what went in their place?
Stan Butia were quite solid before 2010 and like you say its not definite that they will die it just another growing on the edge type plant. The big Butia I had for 10 years and cost me £60 back then cost that out over the years and the enjoyment out weighs the cost of the loss.
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Thu May 11, 2017 9:31 pm |
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charliepridham
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:42 pm Posts: 1925 Location: Cornwall
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
No, it may be 8 years old but its still little and all its brothers and sisters perished, I know I wont protect it in situ so a pot make sense until its A: Bigger and B: I have thought where it might get put and have a chance to spread itself. It would help to know what it is as I picked the seed up on Madeira off an unlabeled plant. So there a job for you if you ever make it down again - ID my Butia ( probably turn out to be a completely different Genus!!)
_________________ Charlie, Growing climbers in Cornwall http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
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Thu May 11, 2017 9:38 pm |
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themes
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:42 am Posts: 2148 Location: birmingham, UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
_________________ Regards,
Mo
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Sat May 13, 2017 5:15 pm |
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Andy Martin
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Posts: 1279 Location: Oxford UK
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Re: No fool like an old fool (Butia)
_________________ Lover of Yuccas,Palms,Nolinas,Schefflera.
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