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Author:  Paul Spracklin [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:59 am ]
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Couple more -

5 - Schefflera multinervia
8 - possibly a Buddleja?
14 - a Roldana of some sort?
18 - Senecio confusus

As you were 18 has already been IDd. And it wasn't a senecio... :)

Author:  Chad [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:19 pm ]
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Good calls Paul.

2 is the Dahlia aff tubulata; or aff pteropoda or sp. nova or [not yet formalised] tamaulipana.

4 is Schefflera taiwaniana

5 is a Schefflera, I have it as S.enneaphylla. I don't think multinervia is supposed to do the 'second ring' of smaller leaflets thing.

14 is indeed Roldana aschenborniana. I repeatedly failed to grow it from seed and was very glad to have 'a bit' from Tom to get me started.

29 is a Calceolaria, we are growing it as Calceolaria pavonii.

Last set of clues, I'll put up all the names on Sunday [or Monday if I forget!].


1. Is the most impressive blue flower I grow.

7. Is a bad picture. It isn't a glossy leaf. Same species as 12.

8. Herbaceous. Marred in the autumn with yellow flowers!

17. The only Dahlia I grow with this sort of leaf.

25. The picture must be really bad given the suggestions as to what it is! Hardy herbaceous perennial. Perhaps too 'fluffy' for this board. Inedible despite its name.

28 we have already said is a species Begonia.

There must be 'lurkers' who recognise these.

Join in!

Chad.

Author:  fillan [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:11 pm ]
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1 Salvia cacaliifolia?
7+12 Hydrangea aspera Gongshan Purple or "Hot Chocolate"
8 Inula magnifica
17 Dahlia foeniculaefolia
25 Anthrisus sylvestris Ravenswing

I was looking forward to the Dahlia tubulata determination!
Originally it keyed out to Dahlia pteropoda before I had access to the key that included Sorenson's new species of D. tubulata
Interestingly Sorenson himself assigned material collected by Hinton to this species that was collected just over the border in Nuevo Leon.

Author:  Chad [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:50 pm ]
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Thanks Mark,

To confirm most of those.

7. Hydrangea aspera 'Hot Chocolate'
8. Inula magnifica
12. Hydrangea aspera 'from Gongshan' [and still in the polytunnel].
17. Dahlia foeniculifolia
25. Anthriscus sylvestris 'Ravenswing'Was the picture so bad to mislead so many?

1. Is clearly a Salvia [in that I've given you square stems and blue flowers!], does another picture help?

Image


28. I thought was one of the easy ones!

Chad.

Author:  hortusgardens [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:00 pm ]
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Sorry Chad, will take issue on Inula magnifica.

Great big yellow flowers, great fun!! mine are just opening alongside Aconitum, Eupatorium and Sinacalia tangutica. May not be gardening on the edge I know but certainly makes a statemet!! (in my mind at least).

Author:  Chad [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:18 pm ]
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No apology needed, I'd much rather know than continue in ignorance!

It came as Inula magnifica and self sows enough to be just annoying.

Do you think it could be Inula racemosa?

Googling seems to show both species with both names!

Chad.

Author:  hortusgardens [ Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:55 pm ]
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Hi Chad

Oops, I wasn't questioning the naming, more the comment about flowers spoiling the look!!

I understand Inula recemosa carries flowers all the way up the stem. Mine, which I believe is Inula magnifica has flowers at the top of the stem only.

Author:  Chad [ Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:57 pm ]
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That's fine. I agree context is everything, have you tried Vernonia fasciculata with them?

The 'missing' names are.

1. Salvia patens 'Giant Form' This isn't 'Guanajuato' which is shy to flower here, but a form from Derry Watkins which is significantly more floriferous than the type as well as being more robust.

28. Begonia sizemoreae

Author:  Conrad [ Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:23 am ]
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Late to the party but I've enjoyed having a gander at the luscious parade of leafage Chad.
So what's the scoop on Dahlia foeniculifolia? Have you flowered it yet? How large does it get? Hardy for you?
Google gives precious little information...

Author:  Chad [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:11 am ]
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Conrad wrote:
Dahlia foeniculifolia? Have you flowered it yet? How large does it get? Hardy for you?


No; so far 3ft; kept dry over winter and not yet seen a frost [very mild winter last year].

Mark [from whom it came] may have more information.

Chad.

Author:  fillan [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:45 pm ]
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Hi
Dahlia foeniculaefolia grows to about 1m and does not tolerate frosts.
In the wild it grows at low elevation (1500-1800m) and so sees no frost and low Winter rainfall.
This group of Dahlias are not suitable for UK gardens in that they need low rainfall and increased light levels to flower.
However they are great greenhouse pot plants and combine fine foliage with large pink flowers.

Author:  Conrad [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:38 am ]
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Thanks guys.
More's the pity that it doesn't have any hardiness having such fine foliage, perhaps it would be useful for breeding with hardier forms to impart a bit a bit of that foliar featheriness to offspring.

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