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I decided a few years ago to try climbers on ropes for a sort of liana like look. I initially set up with jute wire is this does not look to strange and blends in more. Eventually the rope dissolves and disappears and you are left with the climber in that shape. I have been unlucky in that It was bigger as I was stringing from tree to tree but three trees have come down in the time I started this. I've had to modify this year and lead one of the ropes to the arch as a tree fell, rather than wasting what was there.

Is anybody else trying this?
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What climbers are you using?

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That is a good idea Mo. Not sure I have heard of anyone training their climbers in such a fashion. I have one that has done it by itself - Drega sinensis - the growth kind of looped downwards from the Eucalyptus it was growing up then it started climbing back up itself. 'Conveniently' situated on one of the man pathways down the garden it makes a handy throat-height garrotte for the unwary. Elsewhere I have one of the Holboellias that is threatening to do the same.

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charliepridham wrote:
What climbers are you using?


Nothing fancy. Clemetis as this is light and adventurous when it comes to growth . I also have lonicera. This is more heavier and not so bold in colonising the ropes. I am nearly at the stage where Akebia will be my next project (thanks btw for suggesting this a while back)

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That is a good idea Mo. Not sure I have heard of anyone training their climbers in such a fashion. I have one that has done it by itself - Drega sinensis - the growth kind of looped downwards from the Eucalyptus it was growing up then it started climbing back up itself. 'Conveniently' situated on one of the man pathways down the garden it makes a handy throat-height garrotte for the unwary. Elsewhere I have one of the Holboellias that is threatening to do the same.



I have the same thing with clemetis at neck height on my path too. The rope has totally disappeared and I am left with the clemetis. You have to push through it like one of those bead doors. Would like to see pics of Drega sinensis and Holboellias (i had to copy and paste this...I can never spell it correctly) if you get a chance as I am interested in seeing the looks of different climbers and the kind of stems you are left with. I am really after something as Vine like as I can get.

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Your wish is my command...

The Drega


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And the Holboellia


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The Drega I think works best as the liana-a-like. Lovely thing and more vigorous than most sources indicate. The Holboellia seems indestructable, too. I left the pot beside a trachy a few years ago whilst wondering where to plant it and promptly forgot all about it. It quietly rooted through the drainage holes and off it went. Neither get extra water and they are both in exceptionally dry soil with some large trees sucking the life out of that area.

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Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:54 pm
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Loving the heart shaped leaves of the drega. I think the first pic is just the ticket! The soil towards the back of the garden can be problematic here especially below the trees. I tried Holboellia (ctrlV) a few years ago prior to 2010. Petefree recommended it. I have an instant association with him and this plant and can't shake it. When I started the rope thing Grenville an infrequent poster now was doing the same but he may have given up on it. The drega looks the perfect candidate for ropes. Saying that it looks really natural and curtain-y.

A bit side tracked but in the last pic what is growing/climbing in the background of the second pic on the tree? I like it....

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Now, that's a fine idea for the exotic effect, Mo!

I just don't need to try anything made of jute or any natural fibres, as my red squirrels will steal them in no time. I switched to plastics. In return I get planted dozens of oaks and walnuts from them *facepalm*.

I just got a Campsis x tagliabuana 'Summer Jazz Fire' for the southern wall. The colour is really gorgeous!


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themes wrote:
A bit side tracked but in the last pic what is growing/climbing in the background of the second pic on the tree? I like it....


I don't understand the question - can you ask again in English, please?

Finished now but the BIG thing with Drega are the flowers. it is sometimes called the 'hardy hoya'.

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I have plenty of trees no need for rope climbing here Actinidia pilosula is an elegant scrambler should you want to try something less thuggish


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Paul Spracklin wrote:
themes wrote:
A bit side tracked but in the last pic what is growing/climbing in the background of the second pic on the tree? I like it....


I don't understand the question - can you ask again in English, please?

Finished now but the BIG thing with Drega are the flowers. it is sometimes called the 'hardy hoya'.


:lol: sorry. The second pic. Growing up the tree in the background. Please don't start looking for the knuckle duster :D

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I have plenty of trees no need for rope climbing here Actinidia pilosula is an elegant scrambler should you want to try something less thuggish


Thanks for the suggestion. I have Actinidia growing. But it is very small and too well behaved. It's hardly grown in the three years I've had it. Knowing you....you'll have it on an I.V drip of plant steroids. :roll:


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I just got a Campsis x tagliabuana 'Summer Jazz Fire' for the southern wall. The colour is really gorgeous!


you wouldn't have a photo?

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Post Re: Climbers on ropes
Try Passiflora caerulea, it can easily grow 4-5m in a season on tough woody stems. Glossy 5 lobed leaves, fantastic flowers and a thin woody structure. My one proviso is be careful where you get it from, lots of Garden Centre bought plants flounder having being too softly grown.

I propagate mine from a big one I know is tough & rampant, I'm north of you so I know it can be grown well up here (PM me if you want one to try).

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Holboellia coriacea is a great favourite for me, I love the scented flowers in spring and the autumn fruit is spectacular but they are big growers this is part of one of mine

Imageholboellia coriacea 005 by charliepridham, on Flickr

some of the fruit (which is quite nice to eat)

ImageHolboellia coriacea fruit 008 by charliepridham, on Flickr

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themes wrote:
:lol: sorry. The second pic. Growing up the tree in the background. Please don't start looking for the knuckle duster :D



Knuckle dusters are so 1980s, Mo. Pressure points - just as painful but leave no marks :lol:

I see the plant you mean now. Cute-looking little thing - Tropaeolum ciliatum. If you want some PM me your postcode and I'll head it off in your direction. Should be with you by the end of next year. By the end of year 3 you will have lianas-a-plenty but not much else as it is incredibly persistent and invasive. That is a holly tree it is attempting to climb, mainly by piggy-backing and smothering neighbouring shrubs and it needs constant vigilance to stop it taking over. Consider that is one of the driest and most inhospitable bits of ground in my garden in one of the driest bits of England and it will make 5m of growth annually if left unchecked. I have given up trying to get shot of it now and just try and keep it down. I feel I may be labouring the point a bit...

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Charlie, that is just wonderful.

I just have to say I need a spare kidney on this forum and people are pm-ing me asking what blood type I am. Great Forum :D Great people/community. A spring splurge is on the cards methinks.

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themes wrote:
Petefree recommended it. I have an instant association with him and this plant and can't shake it.


Well, I suppose there are worse things to be associated with ;)

I'm still a big fan of Holboellia, though think I'm down to two in my garden now having managed to lose both H coriacea and H latifolia, but weirdly to have managed not to lose the less usual H brachyandra and H fargesii (I think that's still a Holboellia, but it flirted with Stauntonia status for a while). H brachyandra (below) is a definite favourite.

I can second Paul's warnings over the potential for world domination exhibited by Tropaeolum ciliatum. I've kept it in a pot and its foliage is nice enough and its orange flowers really quite nice, as long as it doesn't escape. I vaguely recall there was quite a bit of it in Will Giles' garden somewhere?

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