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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
Hi Palm lovers Had a walk around the Botanical gardens today with my partner, as it was a lovely Spring day. Took some photos of some of the Palms that i am keeping an eye on - ENJOY.
ARENGA ENGLERI
ARENGA MICRANTHA
BRAHEA ARMATA
BRAHEA EDULIS
LIVISTONA AUSTRALIS
LIVISTONA CHINENSIS
LIVISTONA DECORA
WASHY, BRAHEA, BUTIA
RHOPALOSTYLIS SAPIDA
RHOPALOSTYLIS SAPIDA
JUBAEA CHILENSIS
PARAJUBAEA TORALLYI (1)
PARAJUBAEA TORALLYI (2)
CEROXYLON QUINDIUENSE
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Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:51 am |
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Kev Spence
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 10902 Location: Loughborough, Leics, central UK
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
Thanks for the update Rod they all look like winter never appeared for the Botanic garden. I see the Brahea armata is starting to trunk and the B.edulis is massive, way to big for my garden, -6c use to scorch most of the leaves so it was eventually dug up. Stand out palm has to be that massive P.TVT looks good with a trunk but a bit tatty without in my eyes.....did you or the bot gardens get very cold this year?
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:42 pm |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
I would give my left arm to have property with a stream running through it. That was my dream even as a teenager. Locally,I have seen Hayward homes with that..amazing to see shoals of shiners- minnows- shaded by an Orange tree. Those palms look fine Rod- no worse then my King Palms post winter. They grow out of most of it. Bay breezes wear even the new fronds down after a few weeks. That's for the Rhopies looking a bit worn. The others like Kev said,are impressive now. The Mountain palm with lush moss groundcover is a beautiful sight of nature. Funny,that the botanical garden after decades just started this. GW!
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:25 pm |
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Someone called Simon
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 10:22 am Posts: 61 Location: Christchurch
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
Do you think that being by the riverbank makes a big difference to the microclimate there? My A. Engleri's fronds have been totally frosted in it's 2 winters planted out. And going by the frost damage on my Pitt Island Nikaus under some shelter, I'm thinking that slope down to the river must be more important than I imagined.
Also, did you see this plant? I don't know what it is, the dead leaves have been pruned off, leaving just the spear. I do know the damage happened before winter hit, it was like that in autumn from memory.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:30 pm |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
_________________ Rod.
Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:52 pm |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
_________________ Rod.
Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:00 pm |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
_________________ Rod.
Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:17 pm |
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Someone called Simon
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 10:22 am Posts: 61 Location: Christchurch
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
I was there about a week ago. The Dypsis was still there, but just a solitary brownish spear, so not very obvious to the eye. Mine, I think died (unless a spear comes up this summer), and it is perhaps likely to have been too much water also.
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Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:24 am |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
_________________ Rod.
Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:41 am |
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guillaume56
Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 10:59 pm Posts: 43 Location: Christchurch/New Zealand
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
Hi all,
I thought it would be a good idea to reply to some of the comments.
Rod, thank you very much for putting pictures of the collection! I was willing to do it but later, once the Arenga open up its new fronds. In one of the picture you posted its Butia yatay, not odorata(easy mistake done). I will replace the Dypsis this spring with another palm, not too sure which one yet. We have in the nursery a decent size Phoenix sylvestris, Jubaea chilensis or smaller Sabal mexicana and Trachycarpus princeps…I’m also naturally thinking Queen palm now. I’m very sad about the Dypsis, I planted it slightly higher than ground level with a layer of stones under it. The palm didn’t have underground irrigation (I would never do it), it was an invisible leak in one of the main pipe that was running straight into the plant. Once the leak fixed, we just had a very wet winter(and it seems to carry on with spring) and the last green spear was broken by someone. I’m sure your advice would have been very valuable Rod but I’m not sure about your help as the palm was several hundred kilos and the job done with a digger(imagine trying to explain the contractor how to get the job done properly!). Saying that, I have learnt a lot from my mistakes!!!!
Kev, Brahea edulis has been growing quite fast here and all through winter! I didn’t expect so much growth. There is a beautiful specimen in one of Christchurch sea suburb. Winter was mild this year, the coldest temperature recorded at the gardens was -2.7c on the 30th of July. I’m not sure anymore if it truly help the collection to have a mild winter! The palms keep on opening up slowly(Nikau, Livistona) and the new fronds is then more likely to be damaged by the occasional frost.
To all…and especially Rod regarding: “Funny, that the botanical garden after decades just started this.”. The idea of developing a hardy palm collection was describe in our 2007 management plan and the diversity of the collection is mainly due to the forum and Rod’s experiments!!! More and more people love the idea. Yyyeeewww Growing on the edge!!!!
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:47 pm |
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Someone called Simon
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 10:22 am Posts: 61 Location: Christchurch
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
I remember the few unusual palms from, I think around 1990, behind the old nursery. From memory there was a Butia, a Sabal and a Chamaerops. I knew nothing about palms, but I knew they were kinds I hadn't seen before. And I remember being very excited to see them moved to their new location a couple of decades later, with a whole bunch more!
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:31 pm |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
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Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:39 am |
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guillaume56
Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 10:59 pm Posts: 43 Location: Christchurch/New Zealand
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
Someone celebrated Guy Fawkes too hard! I hope the Trachycarpus will come back!!!
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:00 pm |
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Albey
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:49 pm Posts: 831 Location: Christchurch NZ USDA Zone: 9b
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
_________________ Rod.
Hottest Month 23.5°c / 14.0°c
Coldest Month 11.5°c / 3.0°c
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Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:54 am |
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guillaume56
Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 10:59 pm Posts: 43 Location: Christchurch/New Zealand
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Re: Botanical Garden Update Spring 2017 - PALMS
It happened last Saturday night so we naturally don't know who did it. The other palms are fine, the Arenga-Jubaea-Ceroxylon are slowly opening up , I dug up the dead-rotten Dypsis and got a black bird nesting in one of the Nikau .
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Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:48 pm |
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