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Author:  David Matzdorf [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for Mo)

Having been suitably admonished for taking 6 months not to post these, here they are.

As some here are aware, I am working on a development project in the Highlands and a semi-wild garden landscape will be part of it, if we get that far. I was in Scotland in April to meet the architect on the land and work on the scheme designs and I'm painfully aware that my relevant experience gardening in a high-rainfall climate, with acid soil and moderately cold winters, is effectively nil, so I combined the trip with research on what one can grow in western Scotland.

A pilgrimage to the High Temple of Rhododendrons was an essential part of the plan. I had corresponded with Kenneth Cox, the latest generation of Rhododendron breeders there, but it was a Bank Holiday and he had family visiting, so a proper meeting was impossible. Nevertheless, I ran into him, relatives in tow, as I wandered about the gardens in continuous rain, and was able to establish my existence for potential future purposes.

Because of the weather, I didn't have my DSLR with me, so these were all taken using an iPhone SE.

The garden is, unsurprisingly, dominated by a huge collection of mature Rhododendrons. Here are a few establishing shots of the main ravine where many of them live, but this is only part of the collection. They are everywhere.

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The main objective was to photograph every Rhododendron that struck me as interesting, which generally required some kind of attractive foliage and habit, as well as the mandatory gorgeous/dramatic/garish/vulgar [choose one according to your proclivity] flowers.

Rhododendron roxianum var. oreonastes

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Rhododendron makinoi 'Doleshy'

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Rhododendron faberi subsp. prattii

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Rhododendron orbiculare

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Rhododendron ochraceum

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Rhododendron 'Taurus'

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Rhododendon 'Graziela' (I especially liked this cv.)

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Unidentified Rhododendrons - if anyone can put names to them, that would be helpful.

1a. [Rh. kesangiae]
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1b. [Rh. kesangiae]
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3a.
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3b.
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I photographed some other genera, too. Scottish gardens do not live by Rhododendrons alone.

Corydalis flexuosa:

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Cyclamen hederifolium

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Trillium under Rhododendrons

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Viburnum plicatum 'Mariesii'

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And finally, some photos of some of the items for sale in the extensive garden centre.

Here's that Rhododendron 'Graziela' again:

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Cornus canadensis, which grows very well and vigorously in this climate and soil:

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Crinodendron hookerianum

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Rheum 'Ace of Hearts'

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Rhododendron rex

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The label on this said Rhododendron sinogrande falconeri grandia. Someone here suggested that's two different subspecies.

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Rhododendron viallii

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Rhododendron calophytum

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And that's all.

I was back up there last week, for an initial meeting with the planners, which went passably well. At least they didn't throw up their hands in horror when they saw the modern design approach.

Author:  Anne Rhody [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:51 am ]
Post subject:  Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for Mo)

David - I checked in here a few times, anticipating your post about Glendoick, and patiently awaited the arrival. Just by chance I was back here today after many weeks, and there it was, posted today. Lovely photos and a good progress report on your development plans. Thank you for sharing the photos.

Author:  johnw [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

David - Good to see the Den and part of the walled garden again. My that 'Graziela' has prospered, I took morning walks past it in about 2000 and was sure it would konk out as it looked root shy. Recall there was a Myosotidium nearby in a corner, was it still alive?

photo 3b may be an argyrophyllum or if leaves aren't as long as they appear wiltonii.

john

Author:  themes [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Thanks for posting!

1a 1b is Kesangiae

Love the photos. Just wished you'd risked catching a cold and taken more :roll:

Author:  John P [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

David it looks a great place to visit, thanks for posting the pictures.

John

Author:  Thuur [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Thanks for the pictures David. Rhododendron Orbiculare looks stunning.

Author:  themes [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Thuur wrote:
Thanks for the pictures David. Rhododendron Orbiculare looks stunning.


rhododendron yuefengense and platypodum have similarish leaves

John P wrote:
David it looks a great place to visit, thanks for posting the pictures.

John


it's nice to see you more vocal. You can't get away with lurking. You look to suspicious for that 8)

Author:  johnw [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Photo #1 yuefengense and Photo #2 platypodum

R. platypodum has extremely abbreviated winged petioles - Photo #3.

john

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Author:  themes [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Great to see photos John. Great reference material. I don't have platypodum but just for the record another example of yuefengense. Mine flowered early and many reference this as a characteristic.
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as David quite liked Graziella here is the flower


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you get value for money as flowers to the size of the plant is good

Author:  Stan [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Very Nice. Exotic without going exotic for the climate. Exotic for me that's for sure. Rhdodendrons are few and far between nowadays. Love them big leafed Rhodo's- look like Plumeria obtusa leafs.

Author:  johnw [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Friend here crossed yuefengense with oreodoxa. No flowers yet but hopefully they'll not have that bizarre yuef rachis. Foliage should be even better when they're moved to full sun.

john


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Author:  themes [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

you can see the sub section fortunea red new foliage tinge :D

Author:  davidmdzn7 [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Glendoick gardens, near Perth, Scotland (especially for

Great pictures. Hope I have a chance to visit this place someday. 'Graziela' is quite captivating and I had never heard of it before.
To clarify my confusion with the labeling, R. sinogrande is a member of the Grandia subsection:
http://www.hirsutum.info/rhododendron/s ... php?id=473
And R. falconeri, for example, is a member of the Falconera subsection:
http://www.hirsutum.info/rhododendron/s ... php?id=420

So I do not know what they mean by that label ("Rhododendron sinogrande falconeri grandia") unless they are suggesting they think the plants are natural hybrids between subsections, which is known to happen. Some of them even get properly named like R. x sikkimense: http://www.hirsutum.info/rhododendron/s ... hp?id=2426 I think it's more likely whatever underling was tasked with running the label printer got confused and/or carried away.

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