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 Is this a phoenix reclinata? 
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Post Is this a phoenix reclinata?
Trying to work out what type of phoenix this is. It's been growing there for as long as I can remember (with the reinforcing, don't know what that is doing...) ... 312!8i6656

The trunk is too skinny to be a caneriensis, and the fronds are shorter and more dense.

Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:16 pm
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Location: cantabria spain
Post Re: Is this a phoenix reclinata?
I´m not sure but I would say Reclinatas are more like this:



I have two guesses:
Either it is a cross between Canariensis and Dactylifera (slender trunk), or it is a Phoenix Sylvestris, which are solitary, not clumpig ones. Though reclinatas can also be solitary, it is more common to see the clumping forms.


Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:57 pm

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Post Re: Is this a phoenix reclinata?
Its looks like a very happy P.canariensis x rupicola- that twist in the fronds and thin trunk. I know P. rupicola has a reputation for being tender then most. But there are some here in the bay area that are about a century old and had to have taken near single digits in the early 20th century in Pleasanton. I read about them and one day went out for a drive to take a look, saw them and guess what? I think they are hybrids like those in your google maps photo. Look very much alike.

Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:06 pm

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Post Re: Is this a phoenix reclinata?
It was on my to-do list to take a pic of those sometime, they are near where I live.

Originally they were behind a house in a neighbouring suburb, very close to where I lived at the time. So they were transplanted from there to the 'Palms Mall'

I wonder whether it is actually clumping, or just 2 plants that were originally planted close together. In which case the move might have destabilised them, necessitating the reinforcing. Which spoils the whole effect really.

But they were originally very elegant specimens. I was thinking maybe they were reclinata hybrids too, though going by th epics posted it appears maybe not/

Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:41 pm

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Post Re: Is this a phoenix reclinata?
P.canariensis x rupicola

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Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:32 am
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Post Re: Is this a phoenix reclinata?
I have a couple of these, not chanced one out into the ground yet.
Seed came off this palm on Madeira which Gerald Luckhurst (who planted it) told was P. rupricola but as there is only the one my seedlings will be hybrids

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