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Post Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
Hi:
I want to share something unusual here, on the north coast of Spain.
I´ve been tracking Er. Crista galli for a number of years, and this is the first time I see it blooming three times in a year.
They always bloom twice, first time around June, and second about late august, early september. But, maybe, this time, due to very good autumn months of october and november, and rain in the last couple of weeks, this tree has set flowers for the third time.
As you can see, flowers are nothing to write home about, but flowers anyway.

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I guess that, if the weather warms up a little bit in coming weeks (which is very unlikely) it will set more and bigger flowers.

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Hi Julio I quite like the flowers of Erythrina how cold do you get in winter you must be warmer than me.
I managed to grow one from a seed, I got it up to about 3ft of clear trunk, planted it out and my first -6c winter took it out :(
Just one flower would have done me :lol:


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Hi Kev:
I guess that my winter averages are milder tan yours, and summer´s a little bit warmer too, but, according to the plants and palms you are growing in your garden, I would encourage you to plant one.
If you do so, I would advice to grow it taller (2,3 mts tall) and thicker (4,5 inches of diameter at the base). Once you plant it in the ground, it is much better if the soil is loamy, since it likes to have “wet feet”.
As you say: when in bloom they are spectacular indeed!

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I´ll post pictures of other "taller, older" ones in colder places.

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Post Re: Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
This time of year,the short days affect blooms. Some stall,others don't have color like they do in longer warm months. So,that Erythina is a nice bonus.


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Post Re: Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
Hi:
This Erythrina is in a 9b USDA zone

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And this one in a 9a, bordering 9b. It is the tallest I´ve seen.
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Being both older and much taller than the previous(the first message) one, haven´t, any of the two, set a third blooming.
There´s a third one, this old and big, but I haven´t pictures of yet. I´ll try to take some anyday. The three are well over 50, 60 years old

For those of you who can grow citrus on the south coast of England, Ireland and in inner London, I would encourage to give it a try.
I´ve seen, in pictures, people growing, even, avocados (Persea americana) in London, so that means they shouldn´t have any trouble with Erythrina.

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Years ago I planted a decent sized plant in a border with very rich soil and full sun for half the day. Trunk was a gnarly old thing about 8-9cm thick. Every winter it was cut back and every spring it came back but sprouted a little bit lower every time until it eventually struggled a few wispy stems from underground. Back in the day there was a plant at Wisley planted at the base of a south facing side of a heated glasshouse that came back spectacularly each year. My impression is that they need a bit more encouragement than just regular ambient temps in this country. Be pleased to find out that is't the case, though. :)

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Hi, Paul:
Congratulations for your Erythrina. That means that it is possible to grow it and have it to set flowers in good spots in your country.
Mine was for 10 years in a big pot, and then it has been planted in the ground for 20 years now. It only set flowers for the first 2 years, because it was planted in a very heavy shaded and sandy place. That´s why I said I think it´s important the soil they´re in. The more clay, the better.
Keep on trying with many more USDA 9a, 9b zones trees and palms!. You´ll be surrprised!

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Post Re: Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
Mine is in a pot. It is over 2m tall with a big thick trunk but has never flowered. It spends summer outside the greenhouse. I think I will keep it inside next year so perhaps the warmth will spur it on. That said, the first one I ever saw in spectacular flower was planted on the very exposed gardens on the Great Orme at Llandudno. It is no longer there but shows that in favoured locations and with the weather on side it can flower well in the UK. If only mine would.


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Hi, Martin:
It makes sense what you say about keeping it inside for the summer, in order to give it more heat and see if it flowers. Yours is already tall enough to do so.
It´s amazing what you say about the flowering Erythrina in Llandudno, at 53º north, 10 degrees more than me, which is much farther north than expected for an Erythrina, not only to survive but to flower.
If one never tries, one never knows.

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Here you are the pictures of the Eryth. missing. I took them yesterday. Actually, there are 2 trees. They are not blooming now. The first time I saw them was in 1990, and they were as tall and big as now.

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Have a look at the Cupressus macrocarpa behind. It is half dry.

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Some more pictures about erythrinas. They are from 2007.

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Post Re: Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
Erythrina is basically an herbaceous plant in most parts of the UK and attempting to grow it with overwintering timber is folly. I had the clone 'Compacta' perennate and flower for a number of years in my rural frost pocket in Gloucestershire. It would still be with me now if it wasn't for the winters on 2009 and 2010.

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These pictures were taken yesterday. It still has got a good bunch of leaves on it. Look at the girth.

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Post Re: Third blooming on Eryth. Crista Galli
Despite all the rain (275 lts. in December and over 150 so far in January) and high winds almost every day, this Ery. still has a lot of leaves on it ( others haven´t) and not only the old flower spikes but new ones too. I just, don´t understand.
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Well, it´s true that we are having a very mild winter so far. High winds and rain mean no frost. Actually a 10 b winter. coldest was on December the 2nd with 1, 6ºC. All through this month of winter lowest haven´t gone below 5º- 6ºC. With many nights between 7º and 14ºC. Let´s have fingers crossed until, at least, the end of February.

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