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ArtV
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:46 pm Posts: 151 Location: Middlesex, UK
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Butia capitata - hardy?
So I have been looking at the Burncoose website with a view to placing an order with them.
They list Butia capitata which I was considering having a go with. Always thought it was one of those borderline hardy species. However they suggest growing it as a conservatory plant.
Thoughts?
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Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:27 am |
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Paul Spracklin
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:55 pm Posts: 2564 Location: North Thames delta UK
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Re: Butia capitata - hardy?
All plants are hardy somewhere - depends on how cold your area gets! More usefully, perhaps, I have one that was unmarked here in SE Essex during the bad winter '09-'10. Low of -8C and a week below freezing, lots of wet snow. They grow better in areas with more rainfall than I get here but grow nevertheless.
Incidentally these should really be called Butia odorata now.
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Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 am |
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David Matzdorf
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm Posts: 5321 Location: Islington, London UK
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Re: Butia capitata - hardy?
As Paul says, the name is Butia odorata now. I have a B. odorata growing in a somewhat restricted raised bed. It was doing well until the long freeze in 2010, with a low temperature of -7ºC, but probably more importantly many successive days with temperatures continuously below freezing. That nearly killed it. It has never properly recovered. It's alive and it grows a few short fronds every year, but it's still smaller than it was in 2009.
A larger specimen of the smaller species B. catarinensis was growing in a large pot and was killed outright by the same freeze.
I know many people on the southeast who grow B. odorata successfully, but I reckon they started with larger plants or started after 2010. The answer is probably that it is hardy through any normal winter in our region, but liable to be damaged by extreme winters.
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Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:07 pm |
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John P
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:41 pm Posts: 445 Location: Tring Hertfordshire UK
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Re: Butia capitata - hardy?
I have lost a few butia over the years but my capitata now oderata has been planted out 20 years in Hertfordshire. It went in as a small pot plant and is now over 4 metres high. It has survived some extreme winters such as 2010/11. With careful planting and some protection in the early years. I believe they are pretty hardy.
John
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Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:46 pm |
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ArtV
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:46 pm Posts: 151 Location: Middlesex, UK
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Re: Butia capitata - hardy?
Thanks for the replies. Think I will go for it.
IS £35 for a 5L pot reasonable??
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:56 am |
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Grenville
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:20 am Posts: 101 Location: Eastbourne UK
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Re: Butia capitata - hardy?
Butia eriospatha seems a better prospect here (Sussex coast), over a ten year period it has survived where some B capitata have succumbed over winter.
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:23 am |
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John P
Joined: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:41 pm Posts: 445 Location: Tring Hertfordshire UK
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ArtV
Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:46 pm Posts: 151 Location: Middlesex, UK
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