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Alexander
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:55 pm Posts: 3344 Location: Leidschendam, The Netherlands. (52 N latitude)
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Maybe this fast warming trend has happened in the past as well, but there was nobody recording it like in our days because they did not have the eqiupment to record it like we have now. A 1000 years ago they did, nt have thermometers., nor a worldwide net of weatherstations...
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Alexander
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:37 am |
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Tom Velardi
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Posts: 4337 Location: Kyushu, Southern Japan (33.607N latitude)
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Re: Climate and times change...
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:04 am |
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David Matzdorf
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Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:06 pm Posts: 5321 Location: Islington, London UK
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:46 am |
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Steve Pearson
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:16 pm Posts: 16 Location: Beckenham, South London, UK
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Funnily enough David that has been mentioned by quite a few people......
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:58 am |
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john and tacha
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:50 pm Posts: 101
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:35 pm |
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Exotic Life
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:21 pm Posts: 567 Location: Southwest of the Netherlands
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Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:24 pm |
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Alexander
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:55 pm Posts: 3344 Location: Leidschendam, The Netherlands. (52 N latitude)
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I started with Chamaerops in 1979 and Trachycarpus in 1980. Musa basjoo was not availble in those years. But I know someone whom has a Musa basjoo in his garden for 30 years now! But in the past there was no internet so as easy its now to get plants the difficuld it was in the past. But a lot of exotics like Musa basjoo and some Trachycarpus and Chamaerops we could have grown allready many years ago.
Regards,
Alexander
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:20 am |
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Stan
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:52 pm Posts: 10687 Location: Hayward- S.F. Bay area Ca.
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Alexander,how do those exotics look after a winter now compared to 30 years ago?. And do those plants grow more over a perhaps longer season, then 30 years ago?And is there something you did try 30- years ago that failed that you can now expect to survive-if not exactly thrive?
Here the asnswer is yes in my experience.And i will add that the same arctic fronts that froze everything to death 30 years ago-now are more of a setback to plants growth. Not the killer freezes of years past. The south frigid Arctic is farther north?...
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Exotic Life
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:21 pm Posts: 567 Location: Southwest of the Netherlands
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30 years? that Musa must be big?
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:47 pm |
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Alexander
Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:55 pm Posts: 3344 Location: Leidschendam, The Netherlands. (52 N latitude)
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Stan,
In a cold winter they had leave damage and a Musa basjoo would have to start from the roots. The last years you see more and more Musa basjoo in flower, because of the very mild winters the last couple of years. But next winter can be a very nasty one, you never know here... The last bad winter was in 1997 with a lot of ice 20 cm thick. Most exotics wich stay fine in ordinary winters you can say goodby to in a cold one. Things like Cistus for example, except the hardiest ones. And Abutilon vitifolium is another example.
Well I hope that those harsh winters will became something of the past!
But 300 years ago it was much, much worse. Louis the XIV had often frozen wine in his glass in his palace of Versailles, that where real killerwinters...
Cheers,
Alexander
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Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:42 am |
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